In this episode of The NOLS Podcast, John Kanengieter, NOLS Director for Leadership, sits down with Jamie O’Donnell, NOLS instructor and program supervisor, to discuss wilderness as the best classroom.


After watching the video, continue the leadership discussion on the NOLS Facebook page. If you have any questions for John or Jamie, you can e-mail gobig(at)nols.edu or leave a comment on Facebook or YouTube.

There are a lot of ways to learn about leadership—books, seminars, classes, degree programs—but how do you learn to lead? At NOLS, leadership is more than just a concept to be studied and pondered; we give you the tools to be a leader and the opportunity to use them. What you learn here are leadership skills and qualities you’ll carry with you the rest of your life.

To visit the National Outdoor Leadership School, drop by their website for more information.

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